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mary rosenblum
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Hello all!
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mary rosenblum
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I hope you had a great
weekend, and welcome to our Tuesday Forum.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about revealing your character's emotion without 'telling'. If
you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question
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mary rosenblum
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I wanted to talk a bit about
character emotion today, since this is something that many novice writers
either totally neglect...
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mary rosenblum
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or handle by intruding and
telling us what their character is feeling...
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or using WAY too much thought
on their characters' part in order to reveal it. (I was guilty of that when
I started out! )
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mary rosenblum
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Most people are fairly aware
of the emotional state of the people they're interacting with...
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mary rosenblum
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and so is your average reader.
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mary rosenblum
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So when a character seems to
have NO emotions, that person seems very unreal.
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mary rosenblum
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This is also the main reason a
lot of novice writers switch POV in the middle of a scene...
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mary rosenblum
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because they feel that they
really need to let the reader know what, Tom, say is feeling, even though
Cary has been the POV character up...
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mary rosenblum
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until now.
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t green
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Unless your character's an
android. Then you can do no emotion. lol!
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mary rosenblum
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True, t. :-) Or unless your
character is emotionally crippled...
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mary rosenblum
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That LACK of emotion, when it
is intentional, is a powerful clue about something in the character's past.
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mary rosenblum
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I've actually been using that
very 'character card' in a novelette I'm currently working on...
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to suggest a traumatic event
in this particular character's past. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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BUT when you do that, you do
need to give the reader enough of a clue so that they can guess the
reason...
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mary rosenblum
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for the character's seeming
lack of emotion.
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mary rosenblum
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You don't want your reader to
think that this person is simply two dimensional. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Remember...readers can either
think you're writing badly or guess that this person is behaving weirdly...
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mary rosenblum
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so always plant a clue to
nudge readers to make that second guess! NOT the first!
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mary rosenblum
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Even if you want the reader to
guess another character's thoughts, you can nearly always...
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mary rosenblum
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get them to guess at least
roughly what is going through his/her head via body language or dialogue..
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mary rosenblum
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without having to resort to
suddenly switching POV for a paragraph or two.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about revealing your character's emotion without 'telling'. If
you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question
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screen, or use the ask a question icon in order to ask a question. Your
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mary rosenblum
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Think about how you know that
your co worker, spouse, friend, family member is mad, sad, worried,
nervous, or not feeling well.
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mary rosenblum
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We give away emotional cues
all the time.
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And readers are aware of what
is going on. If you use a beat of action in a scene that shows a character
making an expressive gesture...
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readers read that as a clue to
his/her emotional response.
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mary rosenblum
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We have received a lifetime of
training on how to read a story. :-)
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That's why you'll do things
well before you really understand WHAT you're doing. :-) You'll recognize
it when you do it.
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mary rosenblum
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AND...the ultimate fall back,
if you REALLY want to make sure the reader understands what's in that
non-POV character's head...
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mary rosenblum
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is to simply let your POV
guess.
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"Aren't you Marly Conrad,
from Branchwater High School?"
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Marly looked up, found a tall,
lanky man dressed like a cowboy staring at her.
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"Uh, yes." She
studied his shock of sunbleached hair, the faded blue eyes in his weathered
face. "Bobby Sundry? Is that you?"
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mary rosenblum
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Okay, we have a meeting.
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mary rosenblum
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Let's say we want the reader
to know that Bobby here is really attracted to Marly.
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mary rosenblum
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The simplest thing, of course,
is to switch to Bobby's POV.
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Gee, she sure is a looker,
Bobby thought. I wonder if she ever knew I had a crush on her.
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mary rosenblum
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But that's really going to sap
the strength of this scene.
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mary rosenblum
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It pulls us out of Marly's POV
just when we've begun to become intimate with her...
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and we don't know Bobby at
all, so we're suddenly distanced from the whole thing. Weak scene.
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mary rosenblum
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But we can surely let Marly
notice that look in his eye.
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"Bobby Sundry, is that
you?"
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"Sure is." His grin
widened. "I'm glad you remembered."
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She looked away from his
bright stare, felt her cheeks getting hot. "Wow, you sure got
tall." She sneaked a glance back at him, suddenly shy in the face of
those intense blue eyes.
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mary rosenblum
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She is clearly reacting to a
look that is more than just 'gee you look familiar'.
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mary rosenblum
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And if you don't want your
character to realize he's infatuated with her, you can make her decide
she's guessing wrong.
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Dreamer, she thought. He'd
been the most popular boy in class and she was still dumpy. "Well, how
nice to see you again." SHe glanced down at the pitcher of iced tea in
her hands.
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"I'd better get back to
filling glasses. I got recruited to do the brunch for the reunion."
And she hurried away before her cheeks could betray her again. Silly girl,
she thought, as she sloshed tea and ice into tumblers.
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mary rosenblum
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So we know that she had a
crush on Bobby, still does, thinks it's hopeless, and that he's interested
in her...
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mary rosenblum
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even if she doesn't want to
believe it. And I didn't have to intrude and tell the reader anything.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about revealing your character's emotion without 'telling'. If
you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question
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jyinxy
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say your POV character is not in
the scene you are writing - do you switch POV's to anotother characters
POV?
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mary rosenblum
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Well, if you're doing first
person POV you just don't have scenes without that character, since that
POV is telling us the story.
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mary rosenblum
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In limited third, in a short
story, it's really a good idea to stick to a single POV if your story
depends on reader engagement with your character.
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mary rosenblum
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If your story is plot driven,
say it's a come-uppance story where the strength of the story...
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is the not very likeable main
character getting his 'just desserts'...
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or the strength is a twist end
or other strong plot element...
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mary rosenblum
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then omniscient third is fine.
That's where you simply switch POV whenever you need to.
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mary rosenblum
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In a longer work, you probably
have more than one POV character in third person.
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mary rosenblum
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But if you're doing a short
story that is character driven, I"d REALLY work hard to stick to your
POV and avoid scenes where he/she is not present.
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mary rosenblum
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When I do have to do that, I
tend to use cinematic third...I stay out of any POV and show the scene from
outside.
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raines
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What if your character has
telepathic powers and can read emotion?
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mary rosenblum
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Good question, raines! (I have
done a number of empathic and telepathic characters).
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mary rosenblum
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If your POV is aware of
emotions, he/she just is, and since we're in her POV, we'll share her
awareness.
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mary rosenblum
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empathic implies someone who
can read emotion, not necessarily actual thoughts.
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"Well, I"ll see you
tomorrow." Brad turned and strode off.
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He was afraid. Verily stared
after him. Fear trailed after him like smoke on the wind. Why? What was he
afraid of?
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Now here, I emphasized her
ability in order to make it clear to the reader she was not just reading
body language..
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but was more sensitive to his
emotional broadcast. Once readers realized my character was an empath...
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I'd have left the 'fear
trailed after him...' sentence out as unneeded.
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mary rosenblum
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At the start of a story, where
I'm planting clues about my POV's unusual ability, I'd make it more clear
that this is not just reading body language.
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mary rosenblum
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Telepathic implies the POV can
overhear thoughts.
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mary rosenblum
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I don't like to have the POV
constantly 'hearing quotes' because human thought tends to be more
fragmented, full of images, and not all that cohernt.
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mary rosenblum
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This is what I'd do if Verily
is a TP.
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(Telepath).
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"Well, Ii'll se eyou
tomorrow." Brad turned and strode off.
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mary rosenblum
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He was thinking about Sandra.
Verily cocked her head. And he was scared. Why?
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mary rosenblum
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If I use telepathic
conversation in a short story, by the way, I underline it so that it shows
up in italic on the printed page.
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mary rosenblum
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Let's say that Verily contacts
her friend Rose by telepathy. (And I apologize for the html codes you all
using java will see. U means underline)
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He was thinking about Sandra. Rose?
He just left here. Verily reached for Rose's listening mind.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about revealing your character's emotion without 'telling'. If
you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question
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geezer
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With cinematic third, do you use
a page break or can you just slip into it and out again?
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mary rosenblum
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I would use a skipped line and
a star to indicate a skipped line to the editor, geezer.
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mary rosenblum
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You would be AMAZED how often
readers will miss a POV transition in the middle of a scene..
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mary rosenblum
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even when you bend over
backward to make it clear!
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mary rosenblum
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I used to slip those into
stories when I first started publishing...
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mary rosenblum
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and got so much feedback from
fans who missed transitions that I really toned that down.
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mary rosenblum
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Not all readers read
carefully, alas.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about revealing your character's emotion without 'telling'. If
you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question
button or the word bubble next to the red question mark at the top of the
screen, or use the ask a question icon in order to ask a question. Your
regular send bar won't reach me! You can also type /ask in front of your
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mary rosenblum
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Of course, a great way to show
your characters' body langauge is to use action tags in your dialogue.
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Action tags are beats of
action immediately following the spoken line of dialogue.
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They identify the speaker
(instead of using 'she said'!) and you can reveal emotion conveniently.
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"No, I won't tell
you." Amy looked away and shivered.
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janecj333
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Can you explain cinematic third?
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mary rosenblum
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Cinematic third is actually
very simple, jane. You become a camera...thus the 'cinematic' name.
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You the author pick a vantage
point and then you show the scene from that vantage point...
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mary rosenblum
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rather than from the
perspective of any one character.
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mary rosenblum
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It's very useful for large
sprawling scenes like battles where no one POV character will be able to
see the entire thing.
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mary rosenblum
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By staying OUT of all POV you
compromise your limited third much less than if you switch to another third
person POV.
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mary rosenblum
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If I have to show my reader
something that my limited third POV simply cannot see, I'll use
cinematic...
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because the reader is not
engaged with a character, but merely sees action.
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mephistopheles
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so without saying he said she
said or he thought/felt she felt we describe their body language to convey
the image to the reader?
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mary rosenblum
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Exactly, mephis...
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mary rosenblum
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and that is a MUCH stronger
way to do it, because that is exactly how you do it in real life.
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mary rosenblum
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You watch your friend's lips
tighten as he tells you something...
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and you guess that he's upset
even if he won't admit it.
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"I'm just fine."
Roger's lips tightened. "Look, I've got to go."
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We know Roger is speaking and
we guess that he's upset.
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mary rosenblum
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Here's a different emotional
tone:
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"I'm just fine."
Roger winked. "Gotta go. See you later."
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And another:
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"I'm just fine."
Roger glanced over his shoulder, paled. "Look, I've gotta go. See
you..."
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janecj333
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I've written a short where the
pov character's mental capacity is so low that she has no meaningful
thoughts. The 'cinematic' quality of the narrative, however, keeps the
reader at arm's length, I think. I like that and don't like it, at the same
time.
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mary rosenblum
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That sounds interesting, Jane,
and quite a challenge, too. I suggest that you may be well off to use a
secondary character in this person's life...
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whose more normal comments and
actions help us empathize with your low-ability POV. IN other words...
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we will care about your POV
because this secondary does.
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mephistopheles
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can we convey that much
information about body language and expressions in a short short story of
750 to 1,000 words?
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mary rosenblum
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You'll actually use no more
words to show us, meph, than if you tell us, and your story will have MUCH
more impact.
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mary rosenblum
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Say, in your short short, you
needed to let the reader know that Roger up there was scared.
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"I"m fine."
Roger looked over his shoulder, terrified that the zombie might be lurking
in the shadows. "Look, I gotta go."
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mary rosenblum
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You've given the reader more
specific information, but if your story is about Roger who is haunted by
invisible zombies, we really don't need that...we'll guess what he's scared
of.
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mary rosenblum
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And it took WAY more words
than the 'show' version.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about revealing your character's emotion without 'telling'. If
you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question
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jyinxy
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How should flash back scenes be
handled?
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mary rosenblum
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You need to make a VERY clear
transition from the 'now' of the story to the 'then' of your flashback, and
then back to your 'now' again.
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Remember that flashback is not
just your character remembering a past event.
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mary rosenblum
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In a flashback, your character
relives it, with no sense of the future.
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mary rosenblum
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So it's VERY easy to confuse
the reader.
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mary rosenblum
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Set your 'where, who, when'
very clearing in the first sentence of your flashback...and use a strong
transition so that you give the reader...
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some warning before they fall
into the past! :-)
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mary rosenblum
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George leaned his chin on his
hands, thinking back to that sunny summer day when Billy woke him at
dawn...
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mary rosenblum
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And then you go on with ten
year old Billy knocking on ten year old George's window and we relive the
episode with George as a ten year old.
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jyinxy
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would using a "blinding
flash" before her eyes work as a transition to and from the flashback
scenes?
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mary rosenblum
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Well it could get you THERE,
jyinxy. I'd chose a different transition to get us back.
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In a blinding flash, she was
back in her bedroom, her father shouting in the hall.
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And the next sentence is her
father's words, and then she is there, reliving the scene.
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Make it clear that we're
returning.
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Ruby shook herself, banishing
the familiar nightmare, focusing on the bright spring grass.
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It's all over, she thought.
All over. Why can't I forget it?
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mary rosenblum
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Believe me, when you think
you're clear enough...make it clearer!
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about revealing your character's emotion without 'telling'. If
you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question
button or the word bubble next to the red question mark at the top of the
screen, or use the ask a question icon in order to ask a question. Your
regular send bar won't reach me! You can also type /ask in front of your
question in your regular send bar to reach me.
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mary rosenblum
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What takes some time to learn
is that readers are really good at catching clues. Many of us want to give
the reader too much information.
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mary rosenblum
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Spoon feeding is kind of
boring.
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mary rosenblum
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If you give your reader a
solid clue...such as Roger glancing over his shoulder...
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turning pale, and practically
stuttering as he says he has to go...
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mary rosenblum
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and if the reason he might be
afraid is set up in the first part of the story...
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mary rosenblum
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you don't need to tell us he's
afraid a zombie is behind him. We'll know it.
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mary rosenblum
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I usually remove a lot of this
type of information as I revise my first draft...
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mary rosenblum
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when I read the scene in
context, I find I've usually put in too much info.
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mary rosenblum
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Remember...the 'reality' of a
story comes from how well you mimic reality.
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mary rosenblum
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How you do learn something?
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mary rosenblum
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Hopefully not from a voice
whispering in your hear! :-)
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mephistopheles
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but when is too much a clutter
for the reader to understand?
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mary rosenblum
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I'm not quite sure what you're
asking, mephis.
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mary rosenblum
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It's really easy to confuse
the reader with too many inconsequential details. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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And of course, you can go to
the other extreme and give us NO clues about what is going on...
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mary rosenblum
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in which case the reader
simply thinks these people are behaving unrealistically.
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mary rosenblum
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As with nearly every aspect of
writing, you are learning to find the balance between too much and too
little.
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mary rosenblum
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Again, I can't stress enough
that reader input really really helps here.
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mary rosenblum
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Swapping work with another
novice writer...or several....and paying attention to what you hear will
really help you find that balance.
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mephistopheles
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I find it hard to show emotions,
I can show action and tell action like a news reporter, but I want my
stories to be more than just news reports.
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mary rosenblum
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And telling will keep your
stories from coming to life for readers, mephis...
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mary rosenblum
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any more than the newspaper
does.
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mary rosenblum
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Here's a great exercise for
you.
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mary rosenblum
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Go to the local food court of
your mall, the train station, a public park, a sidewalk cafe...
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mary rosenblum
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anywhere you can watch people.
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mary rosenblum
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(I give this exercise to
workshop students at times. :-) )
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Then...watch people.
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mary rosenblum
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Ask yourself...what is this
person's emotional state?
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Angry? Impatient?
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Depressed?
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mary rosenblum
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Dreamy"
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Contented?
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mary rosenblum
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Now write down the cues that
made you guess it:
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Dreamy...vague look on her
face, slow amble, arms swinging loosely, lips in a half smile, not really
paying attention to passers by.
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mary rosenblum
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Keep an 'emotion log'.
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mary rosenblum
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After awhile, when you want to
show the reader a dreamy character or an angry one, the physical cues will
come to you automatically.
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mary rosenblum
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I did this a LOT when I first
started out.
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mary rosenblum
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In fact, three of us writers
used to get together for lunch...
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mary rosenblum
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and we'd take turns 'reading'
a person we could see and then had to make up a backstory for WHY.
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mary rosenblum
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It was a LOT of fun. :-)
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geezer
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Any prepackaged emotion logs you
know of?
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mary rosenblum
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Nah. YOU need to notice geeze.
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mary rosenblum
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The more aware of people you
become, the stronger your characters will become.
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mary rosenblum
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The more oblivious you are to
the human reactions around you, the thinner and more cardboard your
characters will tend to be.
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mary rosenblum
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Be a voyeur!
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mary rosenblum
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I LOVE to watch people and do
it all the time.
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mary rosenblum
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Constantly. Everywhere. It is
such a deeply engrained habit now I don't even think about it.
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mary rosenblum
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I constantly notice hints that
suggest this person's personality, background, belief system, political
views...
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mary rosenblum
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And when I need to show those
things to readers, I have a lot of real details to draw on.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about revealing your character's emotion without 'telling'. If
you're new here, remember that you need to click on the Ask a Question
button or the word bubble next to the red question mark at the top of the
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question in your regular send bar to reach me.
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mary rosenblum
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Observation is a critical part
of the writing process.
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mary rosenblum
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Not just people..
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mary rosenblum
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when you see a beautiful or
terrifying scene...an odd juxtaposition of items...
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mary rosenblum
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that has a strong effect on
you, remember it. Write it down. Use it later in a story.
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mary rosenblum
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And...the more you get in the
habit of observing, the more you'll find that you remember what you
observe.
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mary rosenblum
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And the more of these observed
bits you store for later use.
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mary rosenblum
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Now, I rarely write something
down unless it's very striking and I really want to use it.
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mary rosenblum
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I'm a terrible voyeur. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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I LOVE people who don't draw
the curtains at night, LOL.
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mary rosenblum
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Many of their living roms have
ended up in scenes. LOL
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mary rosenblum
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At the start, I do suggest you
start keeping that 'emotion log'.
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mary rosenblum
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And play the backstory game,
where you make up a story about why this person is stomping along the
sidewalk...
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mary rosenblum
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looking as if he wants to hit
someone...or why she looks as if she just lost her last friend...
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mary rosenblum
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It is, of course, WAY more fun
to do it with friends. But it's very useful to you.
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mary rosenblum
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Just as playing scales is an
important part of becoming a piano virtuoso...
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mary rosenblum
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this sort of exercise is very
important to becoming a strong writer.
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mary rosenblum
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It's not just 'sit down and
write the Pulitzer winner'.
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mary rosenblum
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It's about strengthening your
craft skills the way a pianist strengthens her playing.
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mary rosenblum
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And this kind of exercise is a
GREAT way to pass the traffic jam, the time spent in the waiting room or
checkout line.
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mary rosenblum
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While I'm waiting to check out
my groceries, I"m noticing the checker, the others in line...
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mary rosenblum
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paying attention to what their
faces and bodies betray as the talk to each other, unload their carts, or
what have you.
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lil.mac
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I work retail. A good place to
start right?
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mary rosenblum
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Ah, a gold mine, mac!
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mary rosenblum
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And when someone really
catches your eye...seems to reveal a lot...
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mary rosenblum
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write down a brief description
of that person on your next break.
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mary rosenblum
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I came up with a lot of
secondary characters and physical descriptions for quite a few main
characters from those kinds of notes.
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mary rosenblum
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I am NEVER bored at airports.
:-)
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mary rosenblum
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Even if you can't touch a
keyboard or even a pen, you can spend hours writing every day...
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mary rosenblum
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because this is part of
writing.
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mary rosenblum
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When you're doing this, you
ARE practicing your craft.
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jyinxy
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if anyone has ever seen a movie
called delta of venus - its about 2 writers - they walk down the road and
come up with a story for everyone they see....it helped me to start
thinking like a writer. however the movie is very '
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jyinxy
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frisky" so view it at your
own discretion
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mary rosenblum
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LOL on the frisky part, but
yeah, that's what you do.
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mary rosenblum
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At this point I do it all the
time. Constantly.
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paminnapa
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so the character at disneyland
with the pink mohawk, painted in tattoos, wearing a jean quilt and flannel
shirt with chains would be good:)
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mary rosenblum
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Oh, gorgeous, pam. I'd be
tempted to come up with a story just to use him somehow! :-)
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geezer
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Way off topic. What does an
editor look for in the first 3 chapters of a novel?
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mary rosenblum
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S'okay, geeze. Generally, if
the editor has your three chapters, he/she has your synopsis, too.
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mary rosenblum
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The synopsis thells him
whether you have a solid plot...
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mary rosenblum
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and the first three chapters
tell her whether you have the ability to write that plot as a solid
story...
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mary rosenblum
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they look for solid
characterization, strong craft, that sort of thing.
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mary rosenblum
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It's a writing test. :-)
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cosmos
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If you send in your three
chapters and a synopsis, is it okay to assume that you can work with the
editor to refine the rest of the book. This is assuming that they like what
they see. Or do you need a polished revision ready to send in after they
want to see the rest of the book?
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mary rosenblum
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As an unpublished writer or
even a published short story writer who has yet to produce a book length
work, you will have to have the book completed...
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mary rosenblum
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before an editor will
seriously consider it.
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mary rosenblum
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Many many many people start
novels. Far fewer finish them.
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mary rosenblum
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It is a mistaken belief that a
really cool idea sells a book.
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mary rosenblum
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Ideas alone don't have any
value. An idea turned into a good story has value...and that's your job.
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cosmos
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I am talking about a finished
novel but it needs to go through more revisions.
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mary rosenblum
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Make it as good as you
possibly can before you submit it cosmos. The editor has about 100 other
books and she's only going to pick ONE>
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mary rosenblum
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You don't want to limit your
chances of being that one.
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jyinxy
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so i suppose when we send the
snopsis we should let them know that it is a compeleted work?
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mary rosenblum
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Oh yes...and the publisher's
guidelines will tell you what you can and should submit.
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janecj333
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To attract an editor a story
can't be just characters doing things and feeling things and having
conflict and resolution; a story has to have a reason for being, and an
author who has something to say
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mary rosenblum
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I'd say so, Jane. :-) The
whole should be greater than the sum of its parts.
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mary rosenblum
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Well, this has been a fun
Oregon Hour. :-) Do join us tomorrow for our casual chat...
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mary rosenblum
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where we don't have any topic,
we just get together to talk about whatever.
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mary rosenblum
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I'll post the transcripts of
this Forum in the usual place: Writing Craft: Forum Transcripts.
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mary rosenblum
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Have a good day all!
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