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Questions Questions: Response times, POV, pacing... 1/7/05

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Fri Jan 07 19:02:07 2005

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Fri Jan 07 20:32:15 2005



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mary rosenblum

Hello all, and happy New Year to you!

mary rosenblum

Welcome to our first Friday Forum of 2005. :-)

mary rosenblum

If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

mary rosenblum

For those of you who either read Talebones, remember Patrick Swenson the editor fondly from his interview here...

mary rosenblum

or will submit to the magazine, I just posted a new newsletter that Patrick is doing, featuring Fairwood Press and Talebones.

mary rosenblum

It's available in the Review Section in Surviving and Thriving. Patrick gave me permission to post it for the website folk.

writelegends

What is Talebones?

mary rosenblum

Talebones is a SF/dark fantasy magazine, writel...

mary rosenblum

Patrick Swenson, the editor has been a guest here and has been VERY good...

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about giving website people personal responses and a bit of a critique when they submit.

mary rosenblum

He really likes Long Ridge and the website. If you write SF or dark fantasy, put it on your list of good potential markets.

writelegends

Awesome, I love SF/fantasy, I will have to check it out

mary rosenblum

It's a good magazine. I subscribe to it, and I'd say it's right up there with F & SF and Asimov's in quality.

mary rosenblum

Patrick is getting better and better pro work as his reputation increases.

mary rosenblum

And he really likes to find and develop new writers.

mary rosenblum

Fairwood Press, his publishing house, also publishes The 10% Solution, the best book on 'how to tighten' I've seen and very inexpensive at about 7 dollars.

mary rosenblum

Tonight is an open question night.

mary rosenblum

If you have a question I haven't answered in a Forum...now is your chance!

writelegends

Is there a Talebones URL?

mary rosenblum

www.fairwoodpress.com

mary rosenblum

If you go look at the newsletter, it has a live link to the site.

mary rosenblum

It's Tell Tales, the Talebones Newsletter. In Reviews: Surviving and Thriving.

mary rosenblum

I do have a couple of questions that people sent me ahead of time. They couldn't make the Forum.

mary rosenblum

I sent a short story to Fantasist Enterprises for their anthology, well, it is already beyond the deadline and more than a month since I sent it. Is it a good sign or a bad sign or not a sign at all that they have not yet replied to my submission?

 

 

mary rosenblum

I wanted to address this particularly, because anthology practices are not always obvious when you're first starting out...

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and anthologies can be GREAT markets.

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The way an anthology works is like this...

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the editor first gets promises from some established pros for stories...she uses these promises to pitch the anthology to a publisher and sell it.

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Then she opens up the anthology to fill in the vacant spots.

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If she LOVES a story or it's a good story from a big name, she'll buy it outright.

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Then she'll put aside promising stories until the 'closing date'...

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after which she will narrow down the stories to the number she needs to fill the anthology.

mary rosenblum

So if you don't hear back until after the deadline, then you made the final cut!

mary rosenblum

And since she has a publishing deadline, you will usually hear for sure about 6 weeks after the deadline.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor, her for an Open Question night. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

writermom

Mary can you tell me what courses are offered at Longridge for a graduate from ICL I was offered the bookwriting course at ICL and was wondering if Longridge had anything like it

mary rosenblum

The novel writing course should be available this summer, writer. Last I heard it's still on schedule.

mary rosenblum

I'm writing the manual, and we're nearly done. :-) It's a good course.

mary rosenblum

There is also a 12 assignment course on writing fiction and nonfiction for adults...short fiction and magazine pieces.

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As well as a shorter eight assignment course.

chatty lady

I entered a poem in Cosmic Brownies. Mya Anjalu did as well.

chatty lady

My poem was accepted and will be in with hers and others.

mary rosenblum

That's cool, chatty! Way to go! Nice New Year's present! :-)

mvallin

I teach writning in high school, what do you feel is the most important form for them to master?

mary rosenblum

ooh, mvallin, what a lovely question. Lessee...do you have a couple of hours, heheh? I teach HS writing workshops from time to time and love it...

mary rosenblum

My own feeling is that characterization and show don't tell are always the strongest underpinnings of good prose.

mary rosenblum

Good for you for teaching writing to HS kids. A lot of schools are really reducing that.

mary rosenblum

At least around here.

writelegends

http://www.worldwidefreelance.com/guide.htm -Any good?

mary rosenblum

Dunno, writel. You'll have to use it and see. There are a lot of market lists out there...I''m assuming it's a market list?

mary rosenblum

If it's a for-pay list, I'd use the free ones before I paid for one.

wolf122

Is there a good source to find additional verbs for writing, esp. after speech (such as she 'said', he 'asked')--is there a better source than a thesaurus?

mary rosenblum

I'll tell you, wolf, that is a huge fallacy....that you should replace 'said' with words like 'announced' or 'murmured' or 'complained'.

mary rosenblum

The reason is this. 'said' following a line of dialogue is pretty invisible until it occurs too often.

mary rosenblum

But announced, complained, etc, are VERY noticeable and draw our attention to you, the author, telling us that this person just spoke.

mary rosenblum

Instead of using another verb, just quit using said. Use action tags instead.

mary rosenblum

They will do a LOT for your dialogue.

mary rosenblum

Here's an example:

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"Just be here on time tomorrow." Royce slammed the door.

mary rosenblum

Who said 'Just be here on time tomorrow'?

mary rosenblum

I don't need to use said at all. The fact that Royce's action immediately follows the line of speech instantly identifies him as the speaker.

mary rosenblum

And no 'said' tag is necessary.

mary rosenblum

And remember. You do NOT need a tag with EVERY line of dialogue...

mary rosenblum

only often enough so that readers aren't lost. You can usually go three lines of 'stripped' or tagless dialogue before readers lose track.

mary rosenblum

Unless you have three or four people talking, of course.

writelegends

It's an e-book full of market lists, just curious about it

mary rosenblum

Sorry, writel. I haven't used it and so far nobody has reviewed it.

mary rosenblum

If someone does use it, review it for me, and I'll post it on the website.

mary rosenblum

Remember...if I publish your review about a website, market list, or book on writing, I may not pay you, but it IS a published clip.

mvallin

Where is the best place for students to submit work for publishing? Not novels but prose or short stories?

mary rosenblum

There are quite a few magazines, mvallin, that take work from kids only...not adults.

mary rosenblum

Stone Soup is one. Gerry....uh, forgot her last name...is editor.

mary rosenblum

And there are several others including a Pen competition for teens.

mary rosenblum

I found a lot for some of my students by searching the internet. Use google and search young writers markets.

writelegends

How does one submit a review to you?

mary rosenblum

email me...you can reply to one of the email updates you get.

mary rosenblum

Or directly at maryrsn@comcast.net

t green

Gerry Mandel is the editor of Stone Soup

mary rosenblum

That's it. I kept thinking Mandella and knew that wasn't quite right. Thanks, t.

mary rosenblum

She's VERY nice.

wyrde

what about BIG students that want to submit short stories

mary rosenblum

That's where you need to do your market research wyrde.

mary rosenblum

Start with your market lists. What do you write? Mainstream? Mystery? SF? Fantasy? Horror?

mary rosenblum

If you are writing nonfiction, head for your local big bookstore and start browsing the magazine racks for inspiration.

mary rosenblum

In all cases, I would read at least two copies of any magazine, fiction or non, before you submit a story or a query.

mary rosenblum

All guidelines sound more or less alike.

mary rosenblum

What you want to know is what does THIS editor seem to want?

mary rosenblum

The guidelines for Analog, Asimov's, and F & SF for example, are nearly the same.

mary rosenblum

The fiction in the magazines is very different in each case.

klmiller

what is the best way to querry a newspaper?

mary rosenblum

Write a query to the editor of the page you want to write for, kl...or to the senior editor if you want your own regular column or page.

mary rosenblum

I would go read my interview with Deborah Wood.

mary rosenblum

She went to the editor of the Oregonian and convinced him to give her a weekly pet page in the paper.

mary rosenblum

And she goes into detail about why he said yes. Her method is VERY good and I would follow her example.

info

I have trouble sometimes when I have a paragraph talking about how say a grown son talking about knowing what his father is thinking. How do you deal with keeping the he's straight in the paragraph without confusing the reader?

mary rosenblum

Sometimes you really have to use one character's name, info, or you sure can confuse the reader.

mary rosenblum

That is something I look for on revision. I tend to use names sparingly so am constantly adding them when I have two 'hes' talking to each other a lot! :-)

mary rosenblum

He knew what his father was thinking. He was always right.

mary rosenblum

Who was right? Son or father?

mary rosenblum

Let's call son Carl here.

mary rosenblum

He know what his father was thinking and Carl was always right.

mary rosenblum

Here's the other version.

mary rosenblum

He knew what his father was thinking and Dad was always right.

mary rosenblum

Look how different the meanings of these sentences are, depending on who is right!

mary rosenblum

It's important to make those pronouns clear!

roe

Mary can you explain what Dark Fantasy is?

mary rosenblum

That's a very 'fuzzy' genre definition, roe. One editor's dark fantasy is another editor's horror...

mary rosenblum

but generally, it tends to be more downbeat, the evil often triumphs, and there is often, not always, more gore.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor, her for an Open Question night. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

speckledorf

I'm working on a ghost story. Do you think it is best to explain the ghost or let the reader deal with it on their own?

mary rosenblum

You know, you can get yourself into hot water by explaining too much, speck.

mary rosenblum

There are certain things that we don't KNOW...how a serial killer thinks, how a ghost can manifest...

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and if you give too many details, a lot of readers will respond with 'no, that's not how it is!' because of course...

mary rosenblum

we all imagine those things and we all imagine differently.

mary rosenblum

So making something seem plausible but not explaining is often your best move.

joanc

Mary, it is often said to write what you know or what you read..I read pretty much everything, I can write in all styles, but alot of the stuff I write, I just don't know where it fits or what genre it best suits how do you figure that out?

mary rosenblum

That can be a problem, joan. It helps to know your genre...

mary rosenblum

and then you have to decide what drives your story...what is the STRONGEST part of your story.

mary rosenblum

What is so fundamental that if you took it out you wouldn't have a story?

mary rosenblum

If the romance is central to the story, if it's the MOST important part of the story, then it's a romance.

mary rosenblum

If there is romance in it, but the murder is the most important part of the story...

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it's probably a mystery, if the murder is getting solved.

mary rosenblum

If it's a mystery set on a space station, you're probably going to sell it to a SF market.

mary rosenblum

If you have ghosts and a mystery you can probably sell to either a mystery or fantasy market.

arfelin

I submitted a story to a mag a week ago and haven't gotten a response as to if they received it. Do you think it's okay to email the editor and ask her?

mary rosenblum

A week? I'm laughing, afrelin. I doubt it's even made it into the slush pile yet! Even if you emailed it!

mary rosenblum

Goodness.

mary rosenblum

Realize that editors put in about a forty-plus hour week BEFORE they read slush. That's extra.

mary rosenblum

Which means it may be fifteen minutes a day!

mary rosenblum

And you do not get a 'I got it' contact from print magazines when they received your ms. Some email submissions will send you an auto-reply and if you know that the publisher does this and you don't get one...

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then resend.

mary rosenblum

But editors get testy when you bug them after a very brief period of time.

mary rosenblum

That slush pile is a huge mountain always nagging at them. They don't like to be nagged by writers before they really ARE late in getting out a response.

mary rosenblum

I'd look up their response time in the writers guidelines...

mary rosenblum

and myself, I double it before I query.

mary rosenblum

I have other projects out. I'll wait.

mary rosenblum

Sometimes an editor will hold your story or query if you're new, waiting to see if something opens up where they can use it.

tory

Mary, re: trying to get a novel published, one needs to get an agent before most places will accept the MS submission. How important is it to get just the right agent for your future? Or is it typical to get one early on and later a choose diffeent/presumable better or better known agent?

mary rosenblum

It's really important, tory, to get the best agent you can, right off the bat.

mary rosenblum

I know some stories that illustrate that...

mary rosenblum

of agents who sold movie and foreign rights to the book to the initial publisher...so that the author got nothing when the book became a blockbuster movie.

mary rosenblum

And agents who let the ms sit on the desk for a year without ever sending it out.

mary rosenblum

And remember that the publisher pays the agent who deducts her fee and pays YOU.

mary rosenblum

And that happens as long as the book is in print, whether you are still a client of that agent or not.

writeaway

If I sell a short story and decide to do it as a novel, is there anything (besides length) I must do?... change the names... make reference to short story, etc.?

mary rosenblum

Nope. If you read my novel Stone Garden, the first chapter is nearly word for word a story that was published in Asimov's Magazine..

mary rosenblum

and a story that will be out in Asimov's shortly: Green Shift, is chapters one and two of Eternity Shift, my current SF novel.

mary rosenblum

Different rights.

roe

Don't most mag guidlines give a response time period?

mary rosenblum

They do. And they are usually way off. :-) But they're a guideline for when to nag. :-) Twice the response time is a good rule of thumb.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor, her for an Open Question night. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

writelegends

What are your thoughts on Simultaneous Submissions?

mary rosenblum

Well, writel, far be if from me to tell you to break the rules and submit simultaneously when the publisher says not to....

mary rosenblum

buuuutttt....

mary rosenblum

considering how long the response time is...lots of writers do it.

mary rosenblum

Can it hurt you? Sure. You can tick off an editor so that you don't sell as much to him or her as you might.

mary rosenblum

But if you bcome a big name they'll buy from you anyway.

mary rosenblum

So it's a gamble.

mary rosenblum

But if you have to tell the editor who sends you a contract that 'sorry, I sold this elsewhere' you won't sell your next story to that editor.

mary rosenblum

Keep it in mind.

info

if you leghten a short story into a novel, would the novel still be considered under first rights? Even if part of it was sold as such?

mary rosenblum

First rights are First SERIAL rights, info. They don't apply to novels.

mary rosenblum

Novels are BOOK rights.

joanc

Do you recommend purchasing the 'Best of the Magazine Markets' every year?

mary rosenblum

You really do have to have a current market list, joan.

mary rosenblum

Editors play musical desks.

mary rosenblum

If you submit to an editor and that editor is gone, your ms may go astray.

mary rosenblum

magazines go in and out of business...

mary rosenblum

and if you send to one that closed down, you will wait and wait to hear and may never get the ms back to let you know it didn't end up where you sent it.

tory

Yes, Mary, simultaneous submissions. Many agent guides say agents will accept multi0ple/simultaneous submissions--but mentioning that in the query sounds so manipulative, like you're pressuring them. Any suggestions?

mary rosenblum

Oh goodness, ALL agents know that you're sim subbing! You HAVE to. Agents take forever to reply and they mostly say no.

mary rosenblum

And you WANT to shop.

mary rosenblum

If two agents say yes, you need to decide which one is better for you.

mary rosenblum

The reason editors don't like it (although agents can do it, by the way) is that when an editor says Yes, I'll buy it...

mary rosenblum

that editor has usually reserved space for your story in an issue. And if he/she can't use it...another story has to be found to fit.

t green

if an editor is holding one of my submissions for a previous publication (they pay on publication) is it all right to send him another piece?

mary rosenblum

Sure, t.

mary rosenblum

You can send as many subs to an editor as you want.

mary rosenblum

I suggest you NOT send three or four at a time.

mary rosenblum

The editor is likely to read them and buy the one he/she likes best.

mary rosenblum

But if he buys the first, and you send the second later, he likes it, he buys it, too...and then you send him the third and he likes that....get the picture?

roe

Actually the Writers Digest Market Guide online is better since they update every day

mary rosenblum

I actually like Gila Queen's Guide to markets better, roe.

mary rosenblum

She updates regularly, too, and she includes more small press and fringe markets in both fiction and nonfiction.

mary rosenblum

But it's also for pay.

speckledorf

I need to add some backstory to a work in progress. Is there a way to do so without stopping the forward progress of the story?

mary rosenblum

Sure speck. You can do it through thought...internal monologue...as events/people/placles remind MC of the past...

mary rosenblum

or through dialogue with someone who knows the MC...

mary rosenblum

Those are the easiest ways to do it.

roe

never heard of that one do you have an address you can insert into the transcript?

mary rosenblum

AS I recall, Katherine Ptachek, the editor, allowed me to post some sample issues in New Market Listings.

mary rosenblum

Don't search on Gila Queen...it's a porn site!

mary rosenblum

I posted them awhile ago, so you'll have to scroll down the list.

mary rosenblum

New year's resolution...clean up New Market Updates category!

mary rosenblum

Here's another question I received.

mary rosenblum

My problem. I wish to use third person omniscient for a tense scene between antagonists that use short sentences and phrases for their words and thoughts (Ex. A thinks: Odious man, A says: OK. Deal; B thinks: Gotcha!, B says: Good move.).

"he thought, he said" won't work. Using quotation marks around just the dialogue seems confusing. Any suggestions?

 

 

 

mary rosenblum

Personally, I wouldn't use omniscient here for that very reason.

mary rosenblum

If you want the scene to be tense and taut, you need to use a minimum of words...

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but if you have to identify two speakers and two sets of thoughts..

mary rosenblum

you're going to have to use a lot of tags in order to make it clear.

mary rosenblum

I suggest that you can let one POV infer the other's throughts pretty easily if it is absolutely necessary...

mary rosenblum

and that you'll have a much stronger scene with a single POV here.

mary rosenblum

Realize that sometimes what we WANT to do is not the best thing for the STORY.

speckledorf

http://gilaqueen.us/

mary rosenblum

Thanks, speck. NOT the porn site, I take it. :-)

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor, her for an Open Question night. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

mary rosenblum

I actually subscribed to Gila Queen way back when, when it was still published on paper. :-)

mary rosenblum

actually, referring back to Geezer's question...

mary rosenblum

omniscient is rarely a good choice of POV unless the story is STRONGLY plot driven and the characters are just fine as cardboard cutouts

speckledorf

The gilaqueen site hasn't been updated since Oct...Her hubby has been sick...had a stomach feeding tube so not sure what is going on there.

mary rosenblum

Uh oh...well might be a good idea not to subscribe to it. He was in a car wreck last spring...she had to cancel as my guest.

mary rosenblum

I suspect she has her hands full.

vic

when do you give in and hire someone to sell your manuscript

mary rosenblum

Well, vic, if you're talking book length, then you really will have to let someone sell it for you if you want to sell to the traditional NY publishers.

mary rosenblum

Although small press publishers are quite willing to take unagented ms. The NY publishers insist on agents except for some SF and fantasy houses.

mary rosenblum

You don't need anyone to sell your short work.

mary rosenblum

You just need to keep writing and sending out, writing and sending out.

mary rosenblum

It is HARD to break in and perseverance is part of it.

mary rosenblum

Editors DO know who you are.

mary rosenblum

They WANT stubborn writers who will write lots of stories or articles and keep them supplied.

mary rosenblum

If you quit after three pieces...oh well too bad.

mary rosenblum

If you keep showing up in the slush and getting better, they watch you...

mary rosenblum

because they want to buy your first, discover the next King.

mary rosenblum

It happens every conference...

mary rosenblum

some unpublisher writer timidly approaches an editor and is shocked to the soles of her feet...

mary rosenblum

to discover that form rejections notwithstanding, the editor not only knows her name, but remembers the last story she sent in.

mary rosenblum

I've seen this very scene play out many many times. :-)

vic

i've been at it for 3 yrs..not even a nibble, what now?

mary rosenblum

I don't know how many stories that means or what you've sent out. Either you aren't giving editors quite what they want...

mary rosenblum

or you're not quite at a publishable level yet. Keep writing, keep striving to get better, get feedback from good sources on your work...other aspiring writers, workshops, etc...and keep doing it.

mary rosenblum

If you can, go to conferences and talk to editors. Just be pleasant.

mary rosenblum

Ask them what they are looking for. And read their publications!

writermom

Mary I am struggling with POV in a YA fantasy novel, How many pov's cand you safely use before it gets to be too many and at the end of the story i have two of the pov's dying can I then add pov's to fill the void and keep the story moving

mary rosenblum

There's no exact rule, writer. I would say that you are better off with fewer rather than a cast of many.

mary rosenblum

Most YA fantasys that I have read have a couple of strong central POVs and some strong secondaries. The more time readers spend in the POV of a character, teh more real that character becomes.

mary rosenblum

If they don't spend much time in any one POV, then those characters may not be very real and your story will suffer.

mary rosenblum

I'm assuming you are talking about a Book Two when you ask about adding characters after killing off two POVs at the end of Book One?

mary rosenblum

You can always add characters in a series. It's often wise to do so to keep the story fresh.

writermom

if I have a novel that is in the final revisions stage can I start querying agents or do I need to wait until the book is completely finished

mary rosenblum

You might as well wait until you are finished, writere.

mary rosenblum

If the agent decides to consider you, he/she will want to see the entire ms. As a new and unpublished writer you need to send that agent a POLISHED and finished product.

mary rosenblum

You only get to sell unfinished work when you have proved that you can turn in a completed book on deadline. :-)

mary rosenblum

Then you can sell a proposal.

mary rosenblum

Not for a first book!

mary rosenblum

For those of you contemplating acquiring an agent.

mary rosenblum

Go to the homepage of the Association of Authors Representatives and read their FAQ page.

mary rosenblum

It is a crash course in how to select an agent and be safe from scams.

mary rosenblum

They also have a list of contact infor for agents who are accepting new clients.

mary rosenblum

http://www.aar-online.org/index.html

mary rosenblum

That website offers solid gold advice on how to deal with agents. Do read it.

mary rosenblum

There are a ton of scams out there to prey on new writers.

mary rosenblum

Any final questions before we run out of time?

jr souza jr

Are you familair with anyone who writes for comics and how similar is thatt to script writing

mary rosenblum

Well, jr, Dark Horse is practically my next door neighbor. :-)

mary rosenblum

I suppose there are a lot of similarities to script in that you are working with visuals, graphic rather than stage...and are mostly creating a strong story arc.

mary rosenblum

But in comics you also create the character, where the actor does that in a play or movie.

writelegends

Any challenges for the coming week?

mary rosenblum

Hmmm...how about put that 'no to be verbs' stuff into general use. It will do more to improve your writing than any one technique.

writeaway

Mary when I read your words I feel confident that I can do it... I can be a published author..then I open the writers market...ooh

mary rosenblum

Well, writers market will do that to you!

mary rosenblum

It just seems so overwhelming.

mary rosenblum

But editors are real people very much like writers and it's a lot less...

mary rosenblum

of an unscalable wall than you could ever guess when you start out.

mary rosenblum

Mostly, discouragement defeats people...or their realization that it's just not worth the work.

mary rosenblum

I had a talented NF student recently who is probably going to quit.

mary rosenblum

She has been selling regularly to small magazines and the like...

mary rosenblum

but she's thinking in terms of bottom line and she can make more money doing other things.

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So she will.

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The people who can't NOT do this, who keep sending their work out no matter how 'down' they get at the 100th rejection slip..

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and who, most importantly, keep trying to improve...make it.

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Eventually.

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Obsessives, block heads, terminally stubborn... you call it!

writeaway

the truth is..I'd write if I never sold a word. I have family and friends who love my work. And there's nothing better than having someone ask if they can read your story again.

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and you know what?

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If you define your success that way... that people LOVE to read your work...you will find writing truely satisfying.

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If you define it as winning a Pulitzer, being in the NY Times top ten, making a million dollar advance...well, prepare yourself to forever be miserable unless you are very lucky.

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And it's hard not to fall into that money/sales = success trap.

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But every time a fan comes up to me to tell me what they loved and why...THAT'S why I write. :-)

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Well, you all asked good questions!

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I'll post this with the other Forum Transcripts.

arfelin

Thanks Mary. You saved me from falling out of grace with an editor. I've always gotten an auto-response to my email subs--thought they all did it:-).

mary rosenblum

Well, you might read the guidelines, arfelin.

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But many do not auto-reply.

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Go ahead and query...but wait another week or two at least!

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Thanks for coming all!

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do drop by on Sunday for our casual chat..

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same time same place.

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If you suddenly remember that question you forgot tonight, bring it then.

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See you all Sunday!

 

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