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Flashbacks 9/30/05

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Fri Sep 30 19:03:25 2005

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Fri Sep 30 20:31:52 2005



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mary rosenblum

Hello, all.

mary rosenblum

I hope you had a good week!

mary rosenblum

Our fall rains have arrived with a vengeance and a promise of a VERY wet winter. Good thing I live on a hill!

mary rosenblum

I just got email from Writers Digest that their most recent contest is open...accepting submissions in multiple genres.

mary rosenblum

I'll put a link up on the website in New Market Updates after our Forum.

mary rosenblum

The deadline is Nov 1, so if you have a story and are of a mind to submit to a contest, this is a big one.

tory

Send some down to me and geezer! Fire season hee

mary rosenblum

Tory I will certainly petition our rain gods on your behalf!! :-)

janecj333

mary, do they charge entry fees?

ashton

Does it cost to enter the contest, Mary?

mary rosenblum

I didn't notice mention of a fee when I skimmed it, and I don't think WD usually charges fees...

mary rosenblum

I'll put the details up in New Market Updates...didn't have time to look it over carefully. It caught my eye when I checked my email on my way here.

mary rosenblum

I wanted to talk about flashbacks tonight because a lot of novice writers are confused about just what a flashback is...

mary rosenblum

and it can be both a powerful tool and a major distraction.

drakeluvr

How does one covey simultaneous action? For example, you hear a conversation, and someone else enters, but no one notices them...

mary rosenblum

Drake if you are using first person or limited third POV and your POV character does not see that character enter you are out of luck..unless you break POV to TELL the reader that the person entered.

mary rosenblum

I would do that cautiously.

mary rosenblum

It can really weaken your story if it does not work.

mary rosenblum

If it is important for your reader to know that someone has entered the scene, then figure out how to let your POV character see them or let another character mention that this person has entered.

mary rosenblum

This is where the work of writing comes in. :-) Figuring out how to do what you need to do in a scene.

mary rosenblum

I spend a lot of time doing that. :-)

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and we're talking about flashbacks today. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

drakeluvr

Hmm... I have a small chilkd notice them as a conversation is going on between adults, drawing the adults attention - not sure how to work that though

mary rosenblum

Who is your POV, drake?

mary rosenblum

Then let your POV hear that child...that's all we need.

mary rosenblum

Let the child say something about that person entering. Or the POV notices the kid staring and glances over...

mary rosenblum

there are many ways to do it.

mary rosenblum

Sorry...missed putting up Drake's answer that an adult is the POV.

mary rosenblum

Talking about flashback...I should probably begin by defining what it IS and what it is NOT.

mary rosenblum

It is not JUST a character thinking about the past.

mary rosenblum

A flashback is when your character relives the past.

mary rosenblum

That can be done either in limited third, where we simply travel back in time and replay events as they happened.

mary rosenblum

You write that as if the action is taking place in the present, and use a strong transition so that you don't 'unseat' your readers and leave them floundering.

mary rosenblum

You can do it in narrative, too, if you are using a first person POV or writing a narative story.

mary rosenblum

Some fiction stories are ALL flashback, framed by a brief visit to a 'present'.

mary rosenblum

For example, we might begin with an old grandma telling the kids how she escaped from Nazi Germany and after that first scene where we are in her livingroom...

mary rosenblum

with the grandkids, the rest of the story is told as if it is happening now. Then, at the end, we transition back to that living room to complete the 'frame'.

mary rosenblum

You often see a limited third person flashback, where we transition from the 'present' of the story to a past event in the POV character's life...

mary rosenblum

and we seem to be living that event with the POV as if it is happening for the first time.

janecj333

Mary, in general, how do editors regard scene-size flashbacks set off from the rest of the text?

mary rosenblum

You will find a lot of 'don't use flashback' advice and 'editors don't like flashback' advice...

mary rosenblum

and that is true and false at the same time. The reason you run into it over and over again...

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in writing courses and books is that it is HARD to do this effectively and most novice writers will have a tough time pulling it off effectively.

mary rosenblum

BUT...if it serves the story, that editor has NO problem with it. BUT...it is your task, should you wish to use that scene length flashback...

mary rosenblum

to make it so important to the story that it never crosses the editor's mind to complain.

geezer

So, if the POV is thinking about a past event that isn't a flashback?

mary rosenblum

No, geezer. Not unless he/she is reliving it or retelling it if this is a first person narrative, as if it is happening again.

mary rosenblum

Let me give you an example.

mary rosenblum

"Sure," Karen said, but her skin crawled as she remembered her first encounter with Ralph. He was...weird. She wasn't at all sure she wanted to have anything to do with him again.

mary rosenblum

This is not a flashback.

mary rosenblum

This is Karen thinking about when she met Ralph. She thought he was weird.

mary rosenblum

But we are NOT meeting Ralph, we are just overhearing Karen's thought that he's weird.

mary rosenblum

I would do this if her first meeting with Ralph isn't very important to the story.

mary rosenblum

We need to know she thinks he's weird, but the details aren't really going to add enough to the story to justify including them.

mary rosenblum

BUt...say they ARE important.

mary rosenblum

Something about that first meeting with Ralph will help drive the climax of this story, so the reader needs to SEE it happen.

mary rosenblum

I would then use the flashback:

mary rosenblum

"Sure," Karen said, but her skin crawled as she remembered her first encounter with Ralph.

mary rosenblum

"Hey, babe." He had walked up to her as she was raking the leaves, all lanky redhead, a total stranger. "Bob told me he'd found himself a cutie, and I guess he's right."

mary rosenblum

"Hello?" Karen pushed her hair back from her face. "Do I..." She gasped as he grabbed her, bending her backward, his mouth on hers...

mary rosenblum

"Stop it!" She shoved at him, tried to knee him. "Let go of me!"

mary rosenblum

If you'll notice, I started out with some narrative distance. We hear him say 'Hey, babe', but we have the narrative distance of 'hea had walked up to her....' She is still thinking that sentence... Then from 'Hello' on, I wrote it as if it is happening right now, simply describing her actions and taking the narrative distance...

mary rosenblum

down close to zero, so that we relive the moment with her.

mary rosenblum

I generally use one or maybe two sentences to gradually reduce the narrative distance from the character's thought to the actual relived action so that I don't jar readers with a big 'bump' as we go...

mary rosenblum

from the narrative of thought to the action of the relived scene.

mary rosenblum

At the end of that relived scene, transition back out again. This can be abrupt...sort of like waking up from a dream.

mary rosenblum

With a start, Karen blinked away the images. "What were you saying?" she asked.

mary rosenblum

That gives the effect of someone lost in thought 'waking up' as she realizes that someone is speaking to her.

info

wouldn't something like skipping a couple lines help set it off

mary rosenblum

You can do that...the same way you'd indicate any scene change (do center a * on that skipped line to enforce it for the editor)...

mary rosenblum

but that will make an abrupt transition. Sometimes that works, but other times a gentler transition, as with the above example, works better.

mary rosenblum

Try it both ways and see which is stronger.

janecj333

what is the biggest mistakes writers make in using this technique?

mary rosenblum

The biggest mistake Jane is using it too often or in the wrong place.

mary rosenblum

If the scene is not CRITICAL, then let the character remember it briefly.

mary rosenblum

The problem is that it does two things.

mary rosenblum

It sends the reader BACKWARD and stops the forward momentum of the story entirely.

mary rosenblum

It also sends the reader into another fictional universe...the universe of that scene.

mary rosenblum

And if that universe is more interesting than the one you left...you are in trouble!

mary rosenblum

That is the danger of a very long flashback.

mary rosenblum

Your reader gets comfortable in your flashback universe and doesn't want to come back to your 'present'.

mary rosenblum

I tend to use flashbacks very sparingly. Mostly I use them...

mary rosenblum

when the impact of those events on the character is critical to the story.

mary rosenblum

Otherwise, I just let my character remember them.

archer

Does the symbol you use to set off the skipped line matter, Mary? My instructor told me to use # sign

mary rosenblum

Nope. It just tells the editor that your printer didn't hiccough and skip a line. :-) And sometimes that skipped line is the last line on the page.

robastor

Are there times when going backward is a good idea?

mary rosenblum

Sure.

mary rosenblum

If those events are critical to the power of the story.

mary rosenblum

For example, if your POV's behavior are because she was raped as a young girl, a flashback to that event at a critical point in the story...

mary rosenblum

may explain and justify her bahavior at the climax of the story.

mary rosenblum

It can be VERY important to the story.

mary rosenblum

Since it allows us to share those events and what we discover for ourselves is much stronger than something a character (or the author) tells us.

mary rosenblum

Saying 'I was abused as a child' isn't going to impact the reader...

mary rosenblum

nearly as much as sharing that girl's terror as her mother's boyfriend corners her in the bedroom and breaks her wrist as she tries to escape.

mary rosenblum

Sharing that will have a LOT more impact on us.

drakeluvr

so, can I have a story start as a flashback? A dream told in third and then the character wake up and go through the day of what happened, then return to the present as though they had been caught up in a memory of that time? Would that work?

drakeluvr

Okay, in the story I am working on, the flashback is the beginning of the story. You see a dream on the MC, and relive the day that follows, including what happened with the character they interacted with in their dream -

mary rosenblum

That can work quite well, drake.

mary rosenblum

The only danger here is that readers are searching for clues about your universe when they begin your story...

mary rosenblum

and if they think your 'dream world' is the real world you will give them a nasty jolt when your POV wakes up!

mary rosenblum

You might want to let your POV briefly realize he/she is dreaming so that you don't mislead readers.

janecj333

I have noticed that a lot of modern fiction uses multiple pov and each scene must be alternated with others. Is this a recent phenomenon, and does it indicate weak fiction?

mary rosenblum

Just depends on the 'fad of the moment'. YOu can see stylistic trends in all genres of fiction if you look back over a few decades. :-)

mary rosenblum

Right now there is a trend to large narrative distance in literary fiction with a strong focus on style and narrative...

mary rosenblum

where characters are observed and we don't really share their stories.

mary rosenblum

And that style does get copied in other genres at times.

mary rosenblum

And it an work...depends on what effect you are trying for and where the strength of your story lies.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and we're talking about flashbacks today. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

speckledorf

I was told readers have a low tolerance for the "lure them in with a dream or flashback" then back to the boring present. Have you heard this or was I told wrong?

mary rosenblum

The boring present is ALWAYS a problem, speck.

mary rosenblum

This is one of those risks I was talking about in terms of using flashback.

mary rosenblum

If you give your readers a really COOL start and then drop them into a boring office cubicle...make way for the stampede out of your story. :-)

mary rosenblum

If your present is less engaging than your flashback then you must make it more compelling...

mary rosenblum

and you can do that with a strong sense of drama...

mary rosenblum

a threat..a powerful plot device.

mary rosenblum

A boring scene that offers little is not a good way to follow a powerful flashback !

mary rosenblum

And this is why writing books tell you not to use 'em. :-)

sallyk

In Bond movies, we have the intro to adjust past to present

mary rosenblum

Well, movies are generally poor examples, sally...

mary rosenblum

An intro that does not hook a reader generally does not sell your book.

mary rosenblum

The reader puts it back on the shelf and picks up the next one.

mary rosenblum

Now if that reader knows your work, you're a favorite author, she/he'll forgive you that intro. :-)

mary rosenblum

If you go to a Bond movie, you know what to expect right?

janecj333

Since it's the beginning of drake's story, maybe the flashback could stand as a Foreword?

mary rosenblum

Once upon a time I would have said yes, jane.

mary rosenblum

And theeeennnn....I started polling fans at conference about their reading habits...

mary rosenblum

and was SHOCKED at how few people read the prologs!

mary rosenblum

I have stopped putting anything important in a prolog.

mary rosenblum

If it is necessary for the reader to have this information, I put it in the main story.

mary rosenblum

I use them as brief teasers and that's it.

drakeluvr

later, in the present, you find out that they felt betrayed by that person, and after a fight with their SO, they meet that person again and find out the truth

mary rosenblum

Hard to say how that works, drake. Without reading the story. Give it to a couple of good readers and ask 'em afterward if the dream was good or if they'd rather have skipped it.

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and we're talking about flashbacks today. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

zubbycat

What is the best way to show that you are entering a flashback, especially if it is a lengthy one?

mary rosenblum

I have found over the years that a verbal transition works best... that 'Karen remembered her first meeting with Ralph'...sort of start.

mary rosenblum

Never underestimate a reader's ability to miss a transition.

mary rosenblum

A simple skipped line can leave a lot of readers floundering as they find themselves in a different time and place with no warning.

mary rosenblum

If you think your transition is clear enough, a good rule of thumb is 'make it clearer'. :-)

mary rosenblum

And always find a way to indicate the return to the present clearly, too.

marzipan

What about paralell construction instead?

marzipan

Is that OK in short stories?

mary rosenblum

Instead of flashback, marz?

mary rosenblum

Well, if you find that you are using nearly as much flashback as main story, then yes, you might want to consider a parallel construction.

mary rosenblum

Lore, you want to send your question with an /ask?

mary rosenblum

It won't show up here otherwise.

fyredrago

what is a parallel construction?

mary rosenblum

That is when you have two main characters and plots in the story, independent of each other.

mary rosenblum

You might, for example, follow two brothers as they are parted and pursue their own paths...

mary rosenblum

and usually the plots converge at the climax and end.

mary rosenblum

And yes, marz, you can do it in short form, although the shorter the story the tougher it would be.

mary rosenblum

For say, a novelette, you could probably pull it off well.

lore alley

Can you use a flashback to lead into a parallel plot that will tie in with your present plot?

mary rosenblum

YOu could use it to 'cross connect' those two main characters, lore.

janecj333

I have also read an editor's claim that he usu finds the foreword, after finishing the manuscript, not necessary :)

mary rosenblum

They often are not necessary. :-) But again, jane, beware of these generalizations. If you have a foreward that adds to the story it's fine.

mary rosenblum

Most of the time, you can skip them and it won't matter to the story.

mary rosenblum

Don't do a foreward or a flashback JUST to do it. :-)

mary rosenblum

Do it because the story demands i6t.

fyredrago

Would that be preferred over flashbacks?

mary rosenblum

Paralell construction, fyre? Not really.

mary rosenblum

They do different things.

mary rosenblum

But if you had a LOT of flashbacks, you might be able to run a story that occurs in past and present at the same time. Now there's a challenge for you. :-)

marzipan

How about using it to tell you POV's past?

mary rosenblum

That's how most novice writers use it, marz, and it's not generally a good idea.

mary rosenblum

There are plenty of more compelling ways to give us a character's past without stopping the story to feed us backstory.

zubbycat

Is it a parallel construction if you have two plots with one story in the past and one in the present?

mary rosenblum

Sure, zubby.

mary rosenblum

The stories are occuring simultaneously for the reader. That makes 'em paralell.

mary rosenblum

Even if they are occurring chronologically.

mary rosenblum

I have a very talented student who is working in that form.

mary rosenblum

He's telling one story in his character's childhood and one in his character's middle age...

mary rosenblum

And they converge eventually.

mary rosenblum

They are separate stories and if you think about it, separate characters, since the ten year old is not the same person as the 40 year old.

geezer

I guess Walter Mitty is the ultimate parallel construction.

mary rosenblum

Hmmmm...that's an interesting interpretation of Mitty. I think they don't really qualify as paralell, though.

mary rosenblum

Mitty is the same person in his dream adventures as in his boring real life, he just does different things.

mary rosenblum

Instead of flashbacks, he drops into vivid daydreams that we live along with him as if they ARE flashbacks...

mary rosenblum

and they ARE much more interesting than the real world and that is the author's intent.

mary rosenblum

So here is a case of breaking the rules about 'don't do a more interesting flashback' and it works...

mary rosenblum

because it is that which powers the story.

mary rosenblum

Remember...

mary rosenblum

don't take 'rules' too seriously.

mary rosenblum

The are good 'this is an easy path, that one is hard' guidelines as you learn craft...

mary rosenblum

but ultimately you grow as a writer by doing...or at least trying...stuff that books on writing tell you not to do. :-)

mary rosenblum

You won't always succeed, but if you don't try, you won't grow.

robastor

Can they also be past and present related events/stories?

mary rosenblum

They can be, robastor.

mary rosenblum

I've seen some stories where one plot took place, for example, in ancient Rome and the other in the same space in 20th century Rome.

mary rosenblum

And they converged at the end.

mary rosenblum

Think of flashback like this.

mary rosenblum

If your reader simply needs the information, find another way to convey it...

mary rosenblum

through your POV's thoughts, dialogue, a diary, whatever.

mary rosenblum

If we need to share the emotional effect of the event on your character, then take us back to that moment and let us live it with your POV again.

seigfried007

Is it normal to only use flashbacks for severely emotional scenes--like when a person would do it in real life?

mary rosenblum

Exactly, seig.

mary rosenblum

Flashbacks are not a good way to convey normal backstory, for the most part.

mary rosenblum

The cost to your forward momentum and the risk of reader confusion is pretty high.

mary rosenblum

Save flashbacks for that emotion we MUST share.

mary rosenblum

There are many tools in writing that come at a fairly high cost in terms of reader engagement.

mary rosenblum

So you use them when the benefit to the story outweighs the cost.

fyredrago

So would you recommend avoiding flashbacks if you can find a different way that still shows the emotions without the backstory?

mary rosenblum

If you do not have to use flashback, I would not use it.

mary rosenblum

Save it for when it is the BEST way to do something.

robastor

Can stories get too intense? I write roller coaster rides.

mary rosenblum

Well, robastor, readers are like amusement park goers...some will ride the kiddie coaster and others will line up for the Killer Drop.

mary rosenblum

You'll get the readers who love the Killer Drop is all.

mary rosenblum

REmember, you are not writing for every person on the planet.

mary rosenblum

You are writing for people who like the stories you write. :-)

mary rosenblum

And those that want you to write something different will read someone else.

lore alley

If doing a parallel construction, would it be better to start the story with the past (flashback) or the present?

mary rosenblum

Lore, whether your parallel construction involves different times or simply different plots in the same segment of time, you have to decide which of the two stories to start with...

mary rosenblum

and there is no rule for that. It's the one that works better. :-)

mary rosenblum

This is our After Hours Forum, with me, Mary Rosenblum, your web editor and we're talking about flashbacks today. I've published seven novels and more than 60 short stories and will do my best to answer any questions you have. If you're new here, remember that you need to click on the 'Ask a Question' button or the 'word bubble' next to the red question mark at the top of the screen in order to ask a question. Your regular 'send' bar won't reach me! Or you can use /ask and type your question into the regular send bar if that works better for you..

seigfried007

i found it easier to put in a few senences of flashback for very traumatic events--especially the super-intense scenes of childhood abuse

mary rosenblum

Beware though, seig. You can overdo that very quickly.

mary rosenblum

Think of the splatter movies.

mary rosenblum

A score of people get chainsawed or disemboweld and by the end of the movie, the watchers are bored.

mary rosenblum

Readers also desensitize very quickly.

mary rosenblum

One vivid scene is MUCH more powerful than ten similar scenes of violence.

mary rosenblum

In a VERY few repetitions the effect is 'oh, not another on'e.

mary rosenblum

fyredrago, you need to type /ask in front of your question so that it shows up on the stage here...

mary rosenblum

othewise I can't post it.

geezer

In stories with parallel construction, I generally like one and get annoyed that the other one interupts

mary rosenblum

Oh, that is a REAL risk.

mary rosenblum

Parallel form is VERY hard to pull off.

mary rosenblum

You are constantly interrupting the story to switch to the other story.

mary rosenblum

Even if they are equal in weight, it is hard not to have readers lose interest iwth all that 'back and forth' stuff.

mary rosenblum

It is not a casual solution to 'gee I'd like to do more with this character'.

mary rosenblum

It is a TOUGH challenge.

mary rosenblum

There are a lot of things...like multiple POV in short fiction, parallel construction, omnsicient POV...that CAN work very effectively, but that does not mean...

mary rosenblum

that you will do it well. IT is hard to do things that way,and do 'em WELL.

robastor

I wrote a story where there is a building collapsing, something prior to 9/11. Now, I am unsure if I should continue the story, because it is very intese. What are your thoughts?

mary rosenblum

Robaster, intense is never wrong as long as that intensity is for a reason.

mary rosenblum

If it's just gratuitous violence and we get nothing from it...well enough said.

mary rosenblum

But if that story matters in some way, intense is just fine.

fyredrago

I could see why someone might do parallel, but I think it would probably confuse a lot of readers. It would probably confuse me to keep going back and forth.

mary rosenblum

I haven't read an example where I didn't wish that the author had stuck with one POV. :-)

mary rosenblum

It is distracting.

mary rosenblum

It's another tool that you use 'in spite of the price'.

janecj333

Speaking fo getting bored, in multiple pov, one character's pov is usu unreadable and I generally skip over it

mary rosenblum

That's a problem with multiple POV and why it rarely works well.

mary rosenblum

Mostly it works in very plot driven stories where you have a lot of narrative distance anyway.

robastor

I worte a parallel with interwoven dream sequences that included memories of past events. I think it was one of my best. I can see how they are interesting when written well.

mary rosenblum

Just keeping the reader on track in that complex story is an achievement, robastor. :-)

mary rosenblum

Actually, 'Snow Falling on Cedars' is an excellent example of a story that is mostly flashback...

mary rosenblum

The main story is the muder of the fisherman..

mary rosenblum

but the real story is how internment affected the community.

mary rosenblum

The author does an amazing job of keeping readers on track as he skips all OVER the place in flashback.

mary rosenblum

For a fine example of breaking all the rules with flashback and making it work, read it.

archer

I did several short flashbacks in assignment 12 that my instructor said were effective. My POV was being tortured psychologically. The POV thought her captor's voice/laugh was familiar, but couldn't remember from when. During an intense point in the mental torture, the captor's laughter triggered the POV's flashback to when they'd heard the same laugh as a child. Then the POV realized her captor was her childhood playmate/best friend out for revenge. POV came back to the present when the captor slapped her etc... the flashbacks showed how the POV put the pieces of what was happening to her together. Her mind was jumbled by the mental torture in the present so the flashing back fit with that. But again, the flashbacks were short.

mary rosenblum

And that sounds like it fits fine, Archer.

mary rosenblum

In Cold Mountain, much of the book's front is flashback as the POV lies in a hospital camp and flashes back to battlefield scenes and bits of his past.

mary rosenblum

It's the same sort of device...

mary rosenblum

here, instead of torture you have a man in pain, delerious, drifting in and out of lucid dreams.

mary rosenblum

It was a way for the author, I suspect, to give us a ton of battlefield backstory as vivid action.

mary rosenblum

But since the story really starts as he leaves the hospital, it allowed him to start there instead of earlier.

mary rosenblum

Again...what works, works.

mary rosenblum

Don't be afraid to play with flashback, but don't view it as the 'quick and easy way to do lots of backstory'.

mary rosenblum

That will bite you. :-)

robastor

I'm doing a fictionalized re-writing of a myth. In the story, Zeus is no longer the ruler of Olympus, Athena is. I wrote a prologue to explain Zeu's absence. Do you think I should have, so that readers aren't confused by the artistic licence I took?

mary rosenblum

Hard to say without seeing it robastor. It certainly could work...it sort of depends on the style you're writing in, how you approach this telling...

mary rosenblum

See what readers have to say.

mary rosenblum

Sounds like a fun turnaround, though! :-)

mary rosenblum

Well, this has been a fun Oregon hour.

robastor

I was also writing a sort of theseis to go along with the story. :)

mary rosenblum

Cool. :-)

mary rosenblum

Do join us on Sunday...same time as this forum..

mary rosenblum

when we get together to just talk about writing, and what have you.

robastor

Night Mary!

mary rosenblum

Night all!

mary rosenblum

I'll post the transcript in the usual place:

mary rosenblum

Writing Craft: Forum Transcripts.

mary rosenblum

Have a great week!

janp

Thank you, Have an entertaining week end.

mary rosenblum

You, too, all!

mary rosenblum

I"m off to plot the next novel.

mary rosenblum

Good night !

 

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